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deadmatrix
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Re: A new operating system.
Honestly it's a bit of a hassle to have to back port LCARSx32 to Mono because of .net not being quite fully implemented there just yet. My recomendation would be to try LCARSx32 on a project that is opensource Win32 based such as ReactOS, with the current release being 0.38 - it has a decent shot of already running LCARSx32 as is, I am not sure about the current audio/line in support, but I will try to look into running it on ReactOS later on today. Boot screens would be useable too I do believe. What do you guys think?

http://www.reactos.org is the URL, Raymond, what do you think as far as licensing under ReactOS's used license, which I don't remember which one they are working under at the moment, but taking the code, and modifying it as needed to make a fully LCARS themed Windows clone if you will, it's the best approach I think.

-deadmatrix
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Drunk1n
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Re: A new operating system.
I understand that LCARS x32 is a shell, and a great one it is.

What I am talking about will more or less be my own pet project of, well Raymonds pet project.

I am talking about is writing a background MS compatible source code, implementing a new series of SPI calls, new registry, DLL files, etc. In fact what I am talking about sounds very similar to ReactOS. Turning the shell into the OS. You have the graphical and the desired function laid out. I'm also not looking for a minimal version of an MS OS. I don't expect anyone to help, or even want what I will be doing.

So more or less this will be my own side project. If I can do something more useful to the community I would happily do so.

For anyone who is reading and adding to this thread, please realize I know exactly the finicky and long procedure I am talking about, I don't think Raymond should be coding this at all, this will be my potential addition to the community and IF I manage to pull it off I think it would be a great addition at that.

More important then that I understand, and appreciate the great shell that Raymond is creating - this is the ONLY way I can think of to improve it because he is well on the way to creating the perfect shell.

-Duncan

*Added on an edit:

I thought I should also mention that this isn't because I don't want to use Windows, it is because I believe LCARS could be a very useful, and functional OS all on its own - Raymond has inspired me to work on creating that idea. Until such a point that I can remove MS, and install only LCARS I will happily run (and am currently pleased to be running) LCARS on Windows as a shell.

Raymond
Location: Cedar Hill, MO OS: Windows XP Pro
Re: A new operating system.
I wish you all the luck in the world. Keep us up to date on your progress!

-Ray

Mehall
Location: Scotland
Re: A new operating system.
@Raymond: Agreed, but I got the impression he was hinting at more than just a shell replacement, because there have already been shell replacements fro windows (most have died, but KDE4WIN is in a good way just now)


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Drunk1n
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Re: A new operating system.
Thank you Raymond - I will keep you updated. I figure if I get it working for the shell we have it should be easy enough to get the modifications of other releases into the OS.

jeremyctry
Location: Walla Walla, WA
Re: A new operating system.
wow its been close to 15 years since ive really worked with any code and i went out and bought a new manual on it to brush up on coding about 2 months ago so i could write my own lcars program I dont know it it will be any help to u but LCARS 24 if im not mistaken was a fairly decent standalone windows replacement os for win 95 if memory serves with the changes theyve made to the boot manager I dont think It would even open on the vista computers but it might be a decent place to look for some inspiration
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Trevor
Location: Friockheim, UK OS: Windows 98SE (4.10.2222)
Re: A new operating system.
LCARS 24 was a DOS Shell.

Could you break up your speel into sentances and pharagraphs please.

Thanks,
Trev

jeremyctry
Location: Walla Walla, WA
Re: A new operating system.
Allright I know 24 was a dos shell. I remember it quite fondly in fact. Call it nostalgia but there where deffinately characteristics of the older windows systems i think we all like alot better than what we are getting out of microsoft these days. But what i was saying is that if you going to build a completely seperate LCARS os that can operate without windows even being installed, especially for someone whos programming experience is shall we say a little outdated 24 would be a bad place to start it sounds like he is more familiar with the programming involved with writing that code.
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Windows Vista
Ubuntu 9.04
Ubuntu 9.10
Windows 7

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Raymond
Location: Cedar Hill, MO OS: Windows XP Pro
Re: A new operating system.
I'm watching the ReactOS project pretty closely. The premise of the project is to create an open source, completely free, operating system that is binary compatible with Microsoft Windows. What that means is that although it's not a M$ OS, it would be able to run programs made for windows, including x32.

The project is still in it's early stages (sounds familar, huh?). They currently have it booting to a basic desktop, but more advanced features like USB support for devices other than mice and keyboards, networking, etc. aren't there. Their latest build supports VB6 AKA "VB Classic", so I can make simple apps for it. But until there's real .NET 2.0 support, x32 doesn't have a prayer of running on it.

I know it's not the same as having an entire OS designed specifically for LCARS, but it has some real advantages:

-It's free.
-It will be able to run all of your software, something Linux and Mac OSX struggle with.
-It's light-weight. I think it took up something like 50MB on my test machine and boots in less than 10 sec.
-It's not made by Microsoft :)

If anyone's into alternative operating systems, you might want to check it out.

-Ray

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